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Post by cole1964 Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:50 pm

I'm looking to get some feedback from everyone on the brand of parts everyone prefers or have had experience with. Pro's and Con's between Bugpack, Empi, and Scat. Let's hear it. I'm doing some research and would like to hear from everyone. Thanks
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Post by Grifspop Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:55 pm

it's hard to say, because they make so many parts, and some are good but some are junk. Are you talking engine, interior, suspension, or what?
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Post by cole1964 Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:00 pm

I'm just saying in general. More or less on the items you would use the most of and want to last. Engine, suspension, brake components... Opinion on each one? more
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Post by bakertim2 Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:26 pm

Most of the stuff I have used from (the new) Empi has been very disappointing. Really never been disappointed with the Bugpack or Scat products. But as far as price goes, that is reflected in the quality.
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Post by cole1964 Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:40 pm

Thanks for the info Tim. All input is appreciated.
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Post by Clyde Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:44 pm

I had an 8 doweled flywheel from SCAT that wouldn't mate with a crank that came in the same order directly from SCAT. In the future, I'll be using DPR or another company that dowels the two as a matched set, one set at a time. You get what you pay for....

I've seen empi ceramic coated exhaust rust up in about a year.

Those fancy SCAT serpentine belt kits burn up idler bearings, and they don't offer a replacement bearing seperately.

The SCAT swivel feet, ratio rockers, and rods are really good.

The 5 tab valve covers are pretty cool- don't need to use any sealer, but you'll need to tweak the bales 'cause they're way too tight out of the package.

Before you buy, talk to people who've used the same parts and see what they think.
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Post by bumblebuggy Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:55 am

If I had to rate them, I would put them in this order...

1. Scat
2. Bugpack
3. Empi

Lately there have been rumors running around that Empi has stepped up its game and they are trying to improve the porduct line. But generally I will avoid Empi if there is anything else available.
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Post by ASBug Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:57 am

bumblebuggy wrote:If I had to rate them, I would put them in this order...

1. Scat
2. Bugpack
8. Empi

Lately there have been rumors running around that Empi has stepped up its game and they are trying to improve the porduct line. But generally I will avoid Empi if there is anything else available.
There, I fixed it for you.
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Post by DOODLE BUGG Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:31 pm

all have good an bad but dont buy a empi carberator
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Post by cole1964 Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:45 pm

Thanks for the input. I have some things in the works. I'll keep you all updated as more things come together.
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Post by Bugman114 Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:34 pm

EMPI sucks period. i've had lots of EMPI stuff crap out on me before. their pulleys are extremely soft, and will pound out the center of the outer half, the'r dizzy caps stop working with in a month, their carbs suck ass, etc.

now, their old vintage stuff like from the 70's, is the shit. thats the best highest quality stuff around. but that was back when they gave a damn. If you come across some old NOS stuff, BUY IT, lol.
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Post by tito Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:28 am

bumblebuggy wrote:If I had to rate them, I would put them in this order...

1. Scat
2. Bugpack
3. Empi

Lately there have been rumors running around that Empi has stepped up its game and they are trying to improve the porduct line. But generally I will avoid Empi if there is anything else available.

amen!
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Post by eakanator Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:10 pm

I know this is a old subject, but seen where clyde said he saw EMPI ceramic exhaust rust in a year.
Thought about a EMPI exhaust for my 74 Thing since EMPI makes one. The black steel goes for about $100, The ceramic goes for about $180.

Are the exhaust EMPI makes pretty bad or just have to be careful? trying to find justification for $180 compared to 350 or 400 from other places.
On my old beetle even good triple plated bumpers were starting to rust within a few months.. I thought that was bad.
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Post by Clyde Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:09 pm

You get what you pay for. I got a verbal quote from a "Jet Hot" dealer for around $300 to do a T1 header and single quiet pack about 2 years ago. That's just the coating, I had to send them the parts. Remember the exhaust gets to like 1000 degrees and cools to room temperature, and is subject to water splashing, and the coating has to stay on during all this. I was too cheap to do it:-(

If you just have fun with cars, get whatever's cheap . If you invest in your car, and never plan on selling it, do your research and buy what will satisfy you and last the longest.

Never heard a complaint about A1 headers:
http://www.cal-look.com/forum/cal-look-high-performance/a1-sidewinder-header-system/

I've run a crappy bugpack header for about 12 years. Have to paint it every time I pull the engine, and it stinks. My stainless steel muffler is amazing. $140 well spent, like 3-4 years ago.
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