ughh wiring

Having no luck getting turn signals working.

Finally got brake lights working, ordered new turn signal switch and now front turn signals work but not rear.

And then when i turn on the lights none of the signals work.
Any ideas?

What year is the car? I just cant remember

Never mind I went and looked and seen that is was a 60. More than likely the rears are grounding problems. Since there is only one bulb in the rear lights the high filament is for the brakes and turn signals. The dim filament is for running lights. You will need a good ground for the rears.

yea i rechecked the grounds and dont think thats it since the brake lights are still working- nice and bright with new dual filament 6 volt bulbs.
Having a hard time finding a good wiring diagram for the 60 - see 59 and 61 but not sure how different they are.

Should be the same as far as the diagrams go.

Still I think it is a connection somewhere for them to quit working when the lights are on.

The rears are probably just not wired up right. The rear lights have two wire one running light and the other is the brake light and that side turn signal so I guess you are not getting power from the front to the brake light wire that is light up the brake lights. But it comes out of the switch so I really dont know without seeing it.

Here is a diagram here --->http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiringt1.php

cool ill try tht- would be the only one not in color - ha

Of course that is how it goes. Hope you figure it out. Let us know what it is/was when you figure it out.

Turning on the lights should not be affecting the blinkers (well, not the front's anyway). Definitely sounds like a wire is crossed or a bad ground. Did you get the EIS replacement turn signal switch? The colors on that switch are like the original diagrams. Also, I noticed your pictures on the Samba, you have a black plastic flasher. This flasher is different from the originals as one of the prongs goes directly to a ground. It looked like you had four wires hooked to it, so I think you had it right, just double check it. Good luck, those things can be a real pain.

yea i've been double posting...

To clarify i didn't replace the turn signal switch i replaced the flasher unit. - my mistake on the nomenclature.

Turns out the front blinkers only stop when i turn on the brights with the floor switch, rears not working either way.

The flasher is the wolfsburg west version, i think its hooked up correctly it just requires an additional ground.

zabo wrote:yea i've been double posting...
Turns out the front blinkers only stop when i turn on the brights with the floor switch, rears not working either way.

That's nuts dude. That low/bright switch should in no way affect the blinkers. Sounds like something is definitely crossed. You coming down for the Reynolds show on Sunday? We could all have a "blinker tech session" using your car.

nope - unfortunately I have go to columbia this weekend for some family stuff.


But if addicts or the airheads want to schedule a "blinker tech session" next weekend im all for it. :wink:

Well, I'm heading off on vacation next Saturday, but I think the Airheads are doing the usual meet in McDonough. Keep at it and you'll figure it all out. Maybe try disconnecting all the wires from the t/s switch (except the one to the flasher) and reconnecting them one at a time, testing after each connection.