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Post by dub_love on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:09 pm

Let me start off with my back ground. I'm a 20 year old college student that works 35 hours a week on top of a full load at school and a new Mk6 gti that I pay for so this is going to be a slow build

I bought this 68' standard from my uncle about a week ago. It will start up but won't maintain an idle. It has only one rust spot on the exterior, no dents or dings on him. BTW his name is Herbert 
A few days ago I cleaned the interior and discovers the rear passenger floor pan and battery tray are rusted but not completely rusted through and some spots on the front drivers floor pan has the same.

I then started looking at the wiring and its a bit shotty but the head lights and turn signals work and only one rear tail light driving light works. But no break lights 

Two days ago I replaced the plugs, plug wires, cap, button.
And I just got my set of points in, my oil filter, fuel filter, and oil!. On the way is all new poly bushings for the shifter and the plastic shifter coupler. And some window trim.

I'll put pictures up later today of the interior now, and the dirty engine.
I'm changing the oil today and replacing the points. And if I have time pull the gas tank and clean it

But I need help!
1.Cause for the tail lights not workinglights)
Update 5/24
So I got Herbert up and running for about an hour today but I couldn't get it to idle then I stopped getting fuel to the carb so I'm going to try and pull the tank this weekend and clean the tank, clear the fuel lines, and also rebuild the carb
I also replaced the tail light bulbs and still not getting anything so time to check the wiring for that.

Update: 6/6
I got a new carb from a fellow member Jon65. Very knowledgeable guy! I had cone to the conclusion that my main jet was messed up. I bolted on the carb and Herbert started right up! No problem!!

Update:6/10
I went outside today to move Herbert and start to clean him but my fuel lines are clogged again from rust out of the tank. I cleaned the tank last week and now the rust is back. I need a new tank!! Sad and sending unit

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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by sploval53 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:28 pm

Let me know if u need my help. I live in fayetteville I have been into vw about 11 years.
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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by dub_love on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:38 pm

Well I'm in need of a gas tank now. unless there is a way to clean the rust out. Its not that bad. but enough to clog the line

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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by dub_love on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:39 pm


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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by Jon65 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:48 pm

dub_love wrote:unless there is a way to clean the rust out. Its not that bad. but enough to clog the line

One way that I have heard is to take it to a radiator shop and have them boil the rust and grime out of it. Then when that is done, you apply POR 15 sealer to the tank. It's explained in detail here: http://www.glenn-ring.com/tech/gas_tank_resto.htm

I don't have much experience in this area, but I'm sure somebody else will chime in with some help.

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Post by dub_love on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:49 pm

Its just expensive to do that. I'd be better off buying a new tank

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Post by sploval53 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:52 pm

I may have on. Ill look this afternoon
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Post by Jon65 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:53 pm

dub_love wrote:Its just expensive to do that. I'd be better off buying a new tank

Yeah, most likely. Or a used one.

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Post by Jon65 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:55 pm


Fixed your pictures for you. Finally I get to see your new ride. Very Happy

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Post by dub_love on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:56 pm

sploval53 wrote:I may have on. Ill look this afternoon

That would be awesome

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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by dub_love on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:57 pm

Jon65 wrote:

Fixed your pictures for you. Finally I get to see your new ride. Very Happy

Thank you!!

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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by Grifspop on Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:02 pm

Once you deal with the tank- I'd recommend snaking the metal fuel line that goes through the pan- I cut the end off of a bicycle brake cable- feed it into the metal tube- hook it up to a drill- and Presto- Roto Rooter the all of the crap that was in the metal line. Buy a half dozen of those disposable fuel filters, and toss them when they turn brown
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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by dub_love on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:39 pm

http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif?sort=3&o=1

This is why I have no tail light. where can I get the right connectors

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Post by Jon65 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:34 am

dub_love wrote:http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif?sort=3&o=1

This is why I have no tail light. where can I get the right connectors



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Post by Damn-it Don on Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:19 am

Grifspop wrote:Once you deal with the tank- I'd recommend snaking the metal fuel line that goes through the pan- I cut the end off of a bicycle brake cable- feed it into the metal tube- hook it up to a drill- and Presto- Roto Rooter the all of the crap that was in the metal line. Buy a half dozen of those disposable fuel filters, and toss them when they turn brown

I would recommend that too. I used and old accellerator cable, with one end snipped off. But once your tank is clean, you don't want crud in the line to continue to foul up your carb!
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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by dub_love on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:57 am

Last time I blew out the lines with an air hose so I may do both this time

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Post by Damn-it Don on Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:57 pm

I've been told using compressed air can blow a hole in the line if there are any weakspots due to corrosion.
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Post by Grifspop on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:01 pm

We just did the clean out on Stephen's Ghia fuel line- we snaked it from under the tank, and snaked it from the engine bay- and the new fuel filter filled up with brown sludge immediately
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Post by DiggerD on Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:05 pm

Grifspop wrote:We just did the clean out on Stephen's Ghia fuel line- we snaked it from under the tank, and snaked it from the engine bay- and the new fuel filter filled up with brown sludge immediately

I gotta do that to the 63 as soon as the engine is out. I'm sure there's a lot of crud in the line as well.
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update 6/14

Post by dub_love on Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:05 am

Sorry for the late update. I have been super busy trying to get school stuff figured out and its the girlfriend's birthday in two weeks so I have been trying to get all my crap done!

But onto Herbert! I picked up a pretty nice tank from user SlimJim. Thanks a lot good sir!! And I'm in the process of cleaning it stripping it and all that good stuff. I received some parts last night and I will be pulling the tank off again and moving my fuel filter under the tank and adding an addition one in the rear driver side wheel well. I will also be installing my new brake light switches! Oh! Also may be picking up an exhaust today or this weekend from a fellow member! So if everything goes well Herbert will be getting registered And on the road Monday!cheers

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Post by DiggerD on Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:42 pm

Cool Very cool!!
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Post by Jon65 on Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:43 pm

Sounds good. cheers

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Post by fluxcap on Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:00 pm

I wouldn't bother with a filter under the tank and one by the transmission.  I'd pick either or, but not both.  Just twice as many connections to possibly come loose.  As long as the tank is fairly clean, and you have a new sock screen in the tank, one filter should be all you need.  Plus, both of those areas are kind of a pain to get to when changing a filter!  Laughing

I'd be worried about the metal line slowly releasing any dirt/debris that you may miss, so I'd put it by the rear wheel.  That being said, I have an electric fuel pump under the tank, and it has a filter before it, so I have them in both places, Rolling Eyes.  but if I didn't have the electric pump, I would only use one, lol.

Hope your work goes well this weekend and you can be driving it next week!

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Post by dub_love on Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:19 am

This doesn't pertain to Herbert but I'm turning in my application to a possible future of a new job and the possibility of an internship!cheers

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Re: Herbert, my 68 standard

Post by Murdock00 on Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:52 pm

Good luck man! The car looks good too.

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