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Attorney Isaiah Loophole
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Number of posts: 1335
Age: 23
Location: Zebulon, Ga
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DiggerD
Number of posts: 518
Location: Dacula, GA
Registration date: 2009-01-18
|  Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof  Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:23 pm | |
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Attorney Isaiah Loophole
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Number of posts: 1335
Age: 23
Location: Zebulon, Ga
Registration date: 2008-07-20
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rpm750
Number of posts: 606
Age: 45
Location: Newnan, Ga.
Registration date: 2008-11-11
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:50 pm | |
| Ok, I'm new to the Link Pin front suspension. I'm wanting to lower the '64. Plan is 185/60R15 on Sprint Star aluminum wheel. I'd like to use drop spindles but I'm not sure how narrow I'll have to go to fit the tire under the fender and keep the shocks. Yeah I want to keep the shocks.  I guess one solution would be go as narrow as possible with shock towers and that should be enough to clear the fenders but I'd like to know for sure! One other thing how do you set the Camber on a Link Pin beam?
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rpm750 aka "Average Bob"
'64 Type 1 w/Sunroof
'66 Type 1 Cal-Look
'68 Type 1 (It's a 5)
Crap load of parts!
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Attorney Isaiah Loophole
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Number of posts: 1335
Age: 23
Location: Zebulon, Ga
Registration date: 2008-07-20
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:00 pm | |
| front shocks are more work than it is worth..... Car looks good with those wheels but while you were shopping you should have painted the hood to match 
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1964 Beetle
1966 Kombi
Bryce
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rpm750
Number of posts: 606
Age: 45
Location: Newnan, Ga.
Registration date: 2008-11-11
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:05 am | |
| Hope to have it painted in a few weeks for real..... 
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rpm750 aka "Average Bob"
'64 Type 1 w/Sunroof
'66 Type 1 Cal-Look
'68 Type 1 (It's a 5)
Crap load of parts!
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59 Euro Rag
Number of posts: 274
Age: 19
Location: Canton
Registration date: 2008-10-22
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rpm750
Number of posts: 606
Age: 45
Location: Newnan, Ga.
Registration date: 2008-11-11
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:34 am | |
| I narrowed my beam for my'66 but I cut it out in the middle, then welded in the adjusters. Where do I cut the Link Pin, Middle, Ends and if I cut it on the ends(cut the shock towers off) I'll have to put new needle bearings in? This does sound easier because I wont have to move all the brackets and steer stop.
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rpm750 aka "Average Bob"
'64 Type 1 w/Sunroof
'66 Type 1 Cal-Look
'68 Type 1 (It's a 5)
Crap load of parts!
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fluxcap
Number of posts: 586
Location: Newnan, GA
Registration date: 2008-07-21
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:31 pm | |
| | rpm750 wrote: | | I narrowed my beam for my'66 but I cut it out in the middle, then welded in the adjusters. Where do I cut the Link Pin, Middle, Ends and if I cut it on the ends(cut the shock towers off) I'll have to put new needle bearings in? This does sound easier because I wont have to move all the brackets and steer stop. |
You really don't have much room at all to narrow it from the center and keep the stock towers on a l/p beam. See this link:
http://www.btinternet.com/~aircooled/wolfsburgeast/beamnarrow.html
This guy narrowed his only 20mm each side and had to remove the "inner" portion of the towers. Looks like a pain in the butt and a good bit of extra work for only 20mm.
I did 30mm each side and I think you saw the custom towers I got at bug-a-paluza. I actually didn't place the towers right at the edge of the beam, so I probably could have gone another 10mm each side, which would be a total of 80mm or just over 3 inches. The custom shock towers I used were straight up/down, but you could probably fab up some that arch like those on a b/j beam to go even narrower.
I wanted to keep shocks and needle bearings, so I opted to narrow from the middle. If you cut the ends off, I don't think you can put new needle bearings in. The stock ends have a little "niche" the bearings fit in (the very end of the beam has a slightly bigger inner diameter).
Once you cut the ends off, the tube will have a smaller inner diameter and the bearings won't fit. Also, the "niche" keeps the bearing in place. The pic below shows the area the bearing sits in.
I really don't know what to tell you. If I did it again, I would just cut the ends off and throw bushings in there. It was just too much of a hassle moving all the supports, and welding the shock towers on. The welding heat sligtly warped the ends of the tubes which then made it a pain to get the needle bearings back in and the trailing arms were tight. If you plan on running 2.5 spindles and think that will be enough drop for you, then I'd definitely cut from the ends, but, if you want to add adjusters, you're still going to have to cut the middle. 
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rpm750
Number of posts: 606
Age: 45
Location: Newnan, Ga.
Registration date: 2008-11-11
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:34 am | |
| Thanks Eric, I guess I'll cut off the shock towers and throw bushings in and weld a support for the ends. Now to find the parts.
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rpm750 aka "Average Bob"
'64 Type 1 w/Sunroof
'66 Type 1 Cal-Look
'68 Type 1 (It's a 5)
Crap load of parts!
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rpm750
Number of posts: 606
Age: 45
Location: Newnan, Ga.
Registration date: 2008-11-11
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:41 pm | |
| Ok another concept.......  I like the grey panel instead.
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rpm750 aka "Average Bob"
'64 Type 1 w/Sunroof
'66 Type 1 Cal-Look
'68 Type 1 (It's a 5)
Crap load of parts!
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Attorney Isaiah Loophole
Admin
Number of posts: 1335
Age: 23
Location: Zebulon, Ga
Registration date: 2008-07-20
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:44 pm | |
| why not solid black
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1964 Beetle
1966 Kombi
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rpm750
Number of posts: 606
Age: 45
Location: Newnan, Ga.
Registration date: 2008-11-11
| | Subject: Re: '64 Sunroof Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:30 pm | |
| Don't really want to paint the whole car right now, just a thought on the grey panels. To do all that I want right now with the interior, wheels, engine and to just get it rollin again is going to be around $2000. I could opt for stock wheels now and that would reduce it by $700 or so. Either way it has to have tires and I'd rather get the wheels and tires and go from there! I want it on the road by Spring so I can get some use out of that sunroof!
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rpm750 aka "Average Bob"
'64 Type 1 w/Sunroof
'66 Type 1 Cal-Look
'68 Type 1 (It's a 5)
Crap load of parts!
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